*sigh*
It never really changes.
Same argument - different playground.
jmonkeycoder.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/eclipse-vs-visual-studio/
Interesting article - Think there's plenty of people out there who appreciate the type of comparison.
Thought I'd pitch in as I use both Java and .NET for different clients: I often use both Eclipse and VS (although rarely at the same organisation!). Thought I'd could give a more balanced perspective. You're a Java & Eclipse person - there's nothing wrong with that; many commenters appear to be VS & .NET-ers though and I think there's more caustic discussion there.
It's great to have a side-by-side comparison but there's a lot of the functionality and features from Visual Studio in addition to your lists. There's a number of features from, say Ultimate edition that perhaps not everyone gets to play with! In particular intellitrace and the performance tools from the analysis side, and the architectural tools integration on the design side.
Don't get me wrong - VS doesn't match up to Archimate in my opinion but its tools integrate well. CodeLens is another good example but there's quite a few more.
There are a number Eclipse plugins that do some of these things but not all (which is probably why Ultimate costs > 12k GBP for a single seat license)...but then Java works a little differently, and the platforms it generally runs on are very different!
After running Eclipse on a pretty fast machine on Kali and VS on W8.1 Enterprise I don't see much difference in IDE performance for massive multi-project applications either. I have noticed performance differences in the root frameworks though.
I've always thought that developers shouldn't really have a preference between either framework but I would say there there's a clear difference in the level of productivity however that's kind of irrelevant...I would never consider using Eclipse for .NET/Mono and I haven't seen anything for Java on the Visual Studio side - lets try and forget all about J++ and J# as soon as we all can :)
For me, Java & Eclipse are extremely useful for specific scenarios and I don't think its fair to discount it as other commenters have, yet you've severely underestimated the capability of the other IDE (even for VS 2012).
It never really changes.
Same argument - different playground.
jmonkeycoder.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/eclipse-vs-visual-studio/
Interesting article - Think there's plenty of people out there who appreciate the type of comparison.
Thought I'd pitch in as I use both Java and .NET for different clients: I often use both Eclipse and VS (although rarely at the same organisation!). Thought I'd could give a more balanced perspective. You're a Java & Eclipse person - there's nothing wrong with that; many commenters appear to be VS & .NET-ers though and I think there's more caustic discussion there.
It's great to have a side-by-side comparison but there's a lot of the functionality and features from Visual Studio in addition to your lists. There's a number of features from, say Ultimate edition that perhaps not everyone gets to play with! In particular intellitrace and the performance tools from the analysis side, and the architectural tools integration on the design side.
Don't get me wrong - VS doesn't match up to Archimate in my opinion but its tools integrate well. CodeLens is another good example but there's quite a few more.
There are a number Eclipse plugins that do some of these things but not all (which is probably why Ultimate costs > 12k GBP for a single seat license)...but then Java works a little differently, and the platforms it generally runs on are very different!
After running Eclipse on a pretty fast machine on Kali and VS on W8.1 Enterprise I don't see much difference in IDE performance for massive multi-project applications either. I have noticed performance differences in the root frameworks though.
I've always thought that developers shouldn't really have a preference between either framework but I would say there there's a clear difference in the level of productivity however that's kind of irrelevant...I would never consider using Eclipse for .NET/Mono and I haven't seen anything for Java on the Visual Studio side - lets try and forget all about J++ and J# as soon as we all can :)
For me, Java & Eclipse are extremely useful for specific scenarios and I don't think its fair to discount it as other commenters have, yet you've severely underestimated the capability of the other IDE (even for VS 2012).
